Set lists and linked transposed charts

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Maddcow
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Set lists and linked transposed charts

Post by Maddcow » Thu May 11, 2017 3:47 am

Hi Phil.
I'm experiencing 2 related issues with set lists and linked transposed charts:

When I create set lists for my band, I search for a song in the Set List Manager, choose the song version from the various Real Books I have and then add it to a set list. When I'm done, I email the set lists to my players and often include the charts as attachments so that everything is ready and the players don't need to do anything. Now, I'm a sax player and I've configured all of my Real Books to have linked transposed charts rather than using separate files/books; however, when searching for songs, only the C version of songs appear and so when I add a song to a set list, only the C version is added. There doesn't seem to be a way to go through a set list, change charts to one of the linked transposed charts and then save those changes to the set list. This means that I always need to create set lists for my band members and then create the same set lists for myself but with the transposed charts instead, which is a considerable duplication of time and effort. The second issue is that linked transposed charts don't appear in song searches, meaning that I have to search for a song, open the C version, change to the linked transposed chart and then add it to the set list. I guess I could always have the transposed Real Books as separate indexed files in iGigBook but doesn't that defeat the purpose of having linked files in the first place?? And even if linked transposed charts DID appear in searches, I'd still have to create set lists twice: once for the band and once for myself with the transposed charts.

First of all, am I missing something and there actually IS a way to change a chart on my set list to the linked transposed version and save that change to the set list?

However, if I'm correct and what I've described isn't currently possible, there are actually 2 issues here:
1) the inability to change charts in set lists to linked transposed versions and then save those changes to the set list; and
2) the inability to search for songs and have the linked transposed charts displayed in the search results so that a transposed part can be added, instead of just the C version.

The ideal solution would be to implement a fix for issue 1 above, and be able to save changes to set lists when linked transposed charts are substituted for C version charts. That way, only one set list needs to be created and then any changes with linked transposed charts can simply be saved to the list. What are your thoughts?

Cheers
Gary

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Re: Set lists and linked transposed charts

Post by Phil Smith » Thu May 11, 2017 9:03 am

If you want this to work do not build your set list using the Set List Manager, use any available search which allows you to display the full chart and then add that item to your set list. Ideally adding items via the Set List Manager should give the same result but it doesn't and doing what I described should solve your problem today.
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Re: Set lists and linked transposed charts

Post by Maddcow » Thu May 11, 2017 9:34 am

So I've still got to create each set list twice, and linked transposed charts are actually a hindrance when trying to create set lists because they don't appear in searches and therefore can't be added directly to setlists. What both of these issues create is a time-consuming duplication of effort. The logic of the approach with some aspects of iGigBook really does escape me sometimes. There are some things it does well but other things that are simply illogical and not user- or workflow-friendly at all.

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Re: Set lists and linked transposed charts

Post by Phil Smith » Thu May 11, 2017 10:50 am

Maddcow wrote:
Thu May 11, 2017 9:34 am
So I've still got to create each set list twice, and linked transposed charts are actually a hindrance when trying to create set lists because they don't appear in searches and therefore can't be added directly to setlists. What both of these issues create is a time-consuming duplication of effort. The logic of the approach with some aspects of iGigBook really does escape me sometimes. There are some things it does well but other things that are simply illogical and not user- or workflow-friendly at all.
Yes, you will need a set list for each transposition you want to export. When we created the single index system we didn't consider your workflow and no one has asked for it. This is very common, a feature will be added using available input and later on someone else will come along with a different idea on how to use it. I understand from a user perspective you want the tool you're using to do everything you imagine it should do. We'll look into how we can make this work and if it's easy to do, we'll do it, if hard we have to weigh it against all of the other things people are asking for.
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Re: Set lists and linked transposed charts

Post by Maddcow » Fri May 12, 2017 6:13 am

Phil, I just want to thank you for your considered response to my somewhat-annoyed previous post. I thought about what you said and my expectations of iGigBook concerning my workflows, and you're absolutely correct. With this being said, I'd still love to have the feature whereby changes to a set list concerning linked transposed charts are able to be saved, but will leave this to your discretion. I apologise if I may have seemed unreasonable.

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Gary

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