Music Player Problems

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Music Player Problems

Post by photoastro » Fri May 03, 2013 11:40 am

Phil,
Thanks for adding the new Music Player. It's a very useful feature. However, I'm having a couple of problems with it. I'm using iGigbook 1.82 and have the current IOS on my iPad. Two issues:
I have many of the Aebersold play along tracks and the Music Player can only find about half of them. It doesn't seem to be related to specific CD's as the player can find some of the songs on a CD and not others. For example I have the Jobim play along and the player can't find Corcavodo but can find other tracks on that CD. This happens on several of the CD's. I also have a problem with the player finding songs related to different versions of the same song from different fakebooks. For example, I have "Byb Bye Blackbird" in a playlist from three different fake books. The music player cannot find the Aebersold track for Bye Bye Blackbird for any of the three versions in the set list. However, for two of the versions (from Classic Real Book II and 557 standards) the player can find other tracks of the song (from Miles Davis, Patricia Barber and from a recording of one of my bands) but not the Aebersold. But for the third version of Bye Bye Blackbird, from The FireHouse fake book, the player can not find ANY tracks for Bye Bye Blackbird from any of the several that I have in my music library.
Second problem - I still can not get the music player to work with some of the entries from My Scores. I have Round Midnight both from the fake books which the player finds with no problem (both the Aebersold and other tracks) and also a PDF version generated in BIAB in a different key for one of our singers. When she sings with us I play the tune in Eb and use the score from My Scores. The player can not find any track for Round Midnight from the PDF in My Scores.
I've tried renaming songs to exactly match the name on the CD, deleting extra words in the song names (ie what key they're in which I put in the alternate version names) and all the other obvious things I can think of. However, the player just doesn't see these tracks. Just as in the first case on some songs the player will see all the tracks except the Aebersold tracks and on some entries it will not see any tracks containing that song name in my library. It can also see some of the tracks on certain CD's just not all of them.

Thanks again for a great App. I now am totally paperless at gigs and have managed to convince our sax and bass players to get iPads just to use this app.

Let me know if you have any thoughts on the player. It's really great but just doesn't see all the songs in my music library.

Best regards
Burt Whicker

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Re: Music Player Problems

Post by Phil Smith » Fri May 03, 2013 11:58 am

Post 1 screen shot of the set list in question and 1 screen shot of your music player with the song title that can't be found.
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Re: Music Player Problems

Post by photoastro » Fri May 03, 2013 12:09 pm

Phil,

I'm traveling and only have my iPad with me. I've taken the screen shots and they are in my photo roll. How do I send them to you from the iPad. I don't know how to do it from the forum. If you give me a direct email address I can send them that way. When I do send them this is just part of the set list. In this photo, none of the versions of Byb Bye Blackbird can find the Aebersold track and the third version of "Blackbird" can't find any tracks (there are four total Blackbird tracks in my library) at all. The Aebersold "Corcovado" does not show up.


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Burt

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Re: Music Player Problems

Post by Phil Smith » Fri May 03, 2013 3:06 pm

You can email the two screen shots to help[at]igigbook[dot]com.
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Re: Music Player Problems

Post by photoastro » Fri May 03, 2013 3:27 pm

Thanks,
I just sent them.
Burt

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Re: Music Player Problems

Post by Phil Smith » Fri May 03, 2013 5:08 pm

In your music player you have:

"Corcovado"
"Bye, Bye Blackbird"

In your set list you have:

"Corcovado (Quiet Nights)"
"Bye Bye Blackbird"
"Bye Bye Blackbird"
"Bye Bye Blackbird (Mailman)"

The rule is this:

The song title in the set list must match ALL or PART of the song title in the music player.

"Corcovado (Quiet Nights)" <> "Corcovado"

""Bye Bye Blackbird" <> "Bye, Bye Blackbird"

This is why you aren't getting a match. You can however use the set list manager to alter the name of the items in the set list to match the names of the song titles in the music player.
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Re: Music Player Problems

Post by photoastro » Fri May 03, 2013 6:55 pm

Phil,

I guess I don't fully understand what you mean when you say ALL or PART of the name. I did as you said and renamed the Bye Bye Blackbird to Bye, Bye Blackbird with the added comma. I can now find the Aebersold track but now no longer see the Miles Davis track or the Patricia Barber track which do not contain the comma in the title. If the criterion is that the title must be an EXACT match then this makes sense to me. However, if PART of the title is allowed then I don't see why the Title Bye Bye Blackbird without the comma will not find the version that has the comma as the title without the comma is clearly as subset (in my mind a PART) of the longer title with the comma. Same logic for Corcovado. Both song titles have PART of the name in them (ie Corcovado) just not all of the name, Corcovado (Quiet Nights). It would appear to me that the set list title must be an EXACT match to the name in the music library. Like I say, perhaps I just don't understand what PART of the title means.
Given this seeming exact match scenario, the only way I can get the music player in iGigbook to see all my versions of Bye Bye Blackbird is to change the name of the songs in iTunes to match the iGigbook set list or to have duplicate entries in the iGigbook set list with all the variations in the song names. ie A set list entry with Bye, Bye Blackbird and another entry with the name changed to Bye Bye Blackbird.
When you say it must match ALL or PART of the title, what does PART refer to.
If the titles must match exactly then Is it possible in some future version of the program to allow us to browse the library as an alternative to choosing the song. The App "UnReal Book" approaches their implementation of a music player in this manner. The user browses the library and chooses the track to play with the chord chart. I prefer your manner of automatically seeing all the tracks available as it is much slicker but if the titles must match exactly then it will take quite a bit of work to make my set lists match my music library as not every track is titled identically from the CD.
Sorry to be so dense but I'm just trying to figure out how to best use this great new freature.
Thanks,
Burt

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Re: Music Player Problems

Post by photoastro » Fri May 03, 2013 7:13 pm

Phil,

More interesting discoveries. If it change the name of the song just to Blackbird, I can see all the tracks - the Aebersold and the others. Same is true if the song title is Bye Blackbird - I see all the versions. However, if I make the title Bye Bye Blackbird without the comma I can only see the two versions that don't have a comma and can't see the Aebersold version. I also tried Corcovado and found that any name with fewer characters would work (ie Corco) and the player could find the tune. Any name with more characters (ie Corcovado + any additional letters) would not work.

Interesting. It would seem that the partial title works as long as the partial information is less than the full title. This still doesn't quite explain the Bye Bye Blackbird situation where the title without the comma is shorter than the actual title but it explains the Corcovado issue.

Any thoughts?

Burt

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Re: Music Player Problems

Post by Phil Smith » Fri May 03, 2013 11:51 pm

The song title in the music player is "Bye, Bye Blackbird", the comma is part of the title, think of it as another character since the search isn't as sophisticated as others that strip out punctuation, spaces, etc. "Bye Bye Blackbird" does not match "Bye, Bye Blackbird" because of the comma. "Bye" matches, "Bye B" matches, "Bye Bl" matches etc. "Blackbird" matches, "e Blackbird" matches, etc.

One can change the song title of the MP3 but it's far easier to change the name of the set list item so that it returns the results you want from the music player.
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