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Search Results for Songs In Sets

Post by vivalajazz » Wed Sep 18, 2019 4:57 am

Hello,

Is it possible to do a song search of all songs in all sets? Very often I know I have a specific song saved in a set, but I have many sets and don't remember which set the song is in and it could be from the Book List or My Scores, so I'm going through the sets one at a time trying to find the song. Is there an easier way?

Thank you,

Greg

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Re: Search Results for Songs In Sets

Post by Phil Smith » Wed Sep 18, 2019 6:43 am

vivalajazz wrote:
Wed Sep 18, 2019 4:57 am
Hello,

Is it possible to do a song search of all songs in all sets? Very often I know I have a specific song saved in a set, but I have many sets and don't remember which set the song is in and it could be from the Book List or My Scores, so I'm going through the sets one at a time trying to find the song. Is there an easier way?

Thank you,

Greg
Just use the Song Title Search or the song search in the Gig Set view.
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Re: Search Results for Songs In Sets

Post by vivalajazz » Wed Sep 18, 2019 6:49 pm

I tried that several times...maybe I'm doing something wrong. Gig Set View shows the contents of the selected set. If I am searching for a song that is saved to the selected set (set displayed at the time of the search) the song will appear in the search results. If I am searching for a song that is saved to a set other than the selected set, the search shows the results of a "Library Search", rather than a search of all sets - it doesn't assist me in finding the version from the Library that I already selected and saved to a set. If the song I am searching for is from My Scores, bookmarked and saved to a set, it doesn't appear in any of these search results (set or Library). So I'm going through each set one at a time to try to find the song.

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Re: Search Results for Songs In Sets

Post by Phil Smith » Wed Sep 18, 2019 8:07 pm

vivalajazz wrote:
Wed Sep 18, 2019 6:49 pm
I tried that several times...maybe I'm doing something wrong. Gig Set View shows the contents of the selected set. If I am searching for a song that is saved to the selected set (set displayed at the time of the search) the song will appear in the search results. If I am searching for a song that is saved to a set other than the selected set, the search shows the results of a "Library Search", rather than a search of all sets - it doesn't assist me in finding the version from the Library that I already selected and saved to a set. If the song I am searching for is from My Scores, bookmarked and saved to a set, it doesn't appear in any of these search results (set or Library). So I'm going through each set one at a time to try to find the song.
You know the name of the song or the bookmark that you used. If it's in My Scores you can search for it there and it will show up. We don't have a set search function.
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Re: Search Results for Songs In Sets

Post by vivalajazz » Thu Sep 19, 2019 3:44 am

Many of them are from the Book List. A set search function would be a great feature to have.

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Re: Search Results for Songs In Sets

Post by Phil Smith » Thu Sep 19, 2019 10:35 am

vivalajazz wrote:
Thu Sep 19, 2019 3:44 am
Many of them are from the Book List. A set search function would be a great feature to have.
If many of them are from the Book List, the search feature at the top of the Gig Set view, which also returns bookmark results, will cover most of your needs.
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Re: Search Results for Songs In Sets

Post by vivalajazz » Thu Sep 19, 2019 8:13 pm

Thanks for your reply.

But it isn't covering my needs. That is why, respectfully, I am writing to you.

If the displayed set at the time of the search has the song I am searching for it will show the song - all good. However, I'm not sure if I really understand the value of this feature, because if the displayed set has the song I am searching for, I could just as easily find it by scrolling through the set. I don't really see a need to type a search for a song that appears (listed alphabetically) on the page I am already viewing.

The problem is when I know I have a song in a set but I don't know what set. I go to Gig Set View and search for a song that is not in the displayed set (in this case the song "Four"). There are 69 search results. The search results include all of the versions of this song that I rejected long ago (have the wrong changes) when choosing the one I want for my set. As with most songs in my sets, I looked at all of the available versions - extensively, before choosing the one I want to save to my set - it was a very long process. Now I want to go to that saved version - quickly, and I know it is in one of my sets, but when I do the search all I can get are the 69 results of every version of the song. It would take a lot of time to view them all again and select the right one again. There isn't enough time to do that on a gig.

Having the songs we want into sets we use to perform is the payoff of using iGigBook. Not being able to quickly find those songs that we have worked so hard to set aside is a real handicap, and makes the process of finding the songs we want to perform on a gig very clumsy, in my opinion.

A set search would be a great feature to have.

Thank you, Greg

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Re: Search Results for Songs In Sets

Post by Phil Smith » Fri Sep 20, 2019 2:52 pm

vivalajazz wrote:
Thu Sep 19, 2019 8:13 pm
Thanks for your reply.

But it isn't covering my needs. That is why, respectfully, I am writing to you.

If the displayed set at the time of the search has the song I am searching for it will show the song - all good. However, I'm not sure if I really understand the value of this feature, because if the displayed set has the song I am searching for, I could just as easily find it by scrolling through the set. I don't really see a need to type a search for a song that appears (listed alphabetically) on the page I am already viewing.
The purpose of the search feature in the Gig Set View is two fold.

1. For musicians that have many items in a set list, say 100, the search provides them a way to get to song without doing a lot of scrolling.

2. Often a musician encounters a situation where a song is requested that's not in the set they are currently viewing, the search provides them with a way of locating a song and adding it to their set without having to jump to the Song Title Search.
The problem is when I know I have a song in a set but I don't know what set. I go to Gig Set View and search for a song that is not in the displayed set (in this case the song "Four"). There are 69 search results. The search results include all of the versions of this song that I rejected long ago (have the wrong changes) when choosing the one I want for my set. As with most songs in my sets, I looked at all of the available versions - extensively, before choosing the one I want to save to my set - it was a very long process. Now I want to go to that saved version - quickly, and I know it is in one of my sets, but when I do the search all I can get are the 69 results of every version of the song. It would take a lot of time to view them all again and select the right one again. There isn't enough time to do that on a gig.

Having the songs we want into sets we use to perform is the payoff of using iGigBook. Not being able to quickly find those songs that we have worked so hard to set aside is a real handicap, and makes the process of finding the songs we want to perform on a gig very clumsy, in my opinion.

A set search would be a great feature to have.

Thank you, Greg
No matter what search you use, typing in "four" will always return a bunch of results and so it wouldn't be the best example for the case you're presenting. I can see where searching through sets would have some benefit however as I explained above with respect to how the feature works and what it's used for it's not something we can just switch over to because not everyone uses set lists the way you seem to be using them.
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Re: Search Results for Songs In Sets

Post by vivalajazz » Sun Sep 29, 2019 3:49 pm

Yes, “Four” isn’t a typical example because many of the 69 search results are different songs with the word “Four” in the title. However, it is common to have 10 search results of the correct title that I have already looked at, decided against using 9 of them, and placed the one I want to use on my gigs into one of my sets.
2. Often a musician encounters a situation where a song is requested that's not in the set they are currently viewing, the search provides them with a way of locating a song and adding it to their set without having to jump to the Song Title Search.
I don’t understand how limiting the search to the set currently viewed makes any of those objectives easier to accomplish, or why the currently viewed set must have any relevance to the requested song at all, as their relationship seems to be completely random.

What if the musician wants to add the song to a different set, or just view / play it without adding it to a set? What if the musician already added the best version of the song from his library to a different set and really wants to just find it and play it?

I don’t understand how a musician looking for a song on a gig would benefit from searching only a random portion of their performance repertoire rather than searching all of it. I don’t understand how musicians would not benefit by finding the performance version of the song they are searching for regardless of what set they saved it to. Expanding the search feature to include all sets would include the current set; I don’t understand how search results from all sets would hinder users who want search results from the current set. So I respectfully don’t understand at all why the feature is the way it is.

Rather than switching over, you could always add a button to the Gig Set View search similar to the My Scores button in the Set Manager search, which is a great feature, to select searching for the song in the current set or all sets. It would be a really great and useful feature.

Thank you, Greg

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