Prevent iPad sleep

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Prevent iPad sleep

Post by mactod » Fri Aug 30, 2019 2:14 pm

Wishing the iPad’s sleep mode could be prevented while using the iGigBook app-troublesome to have to go to the device’s settings to change to prevent the iPad from unwanted sleep.
(Forgive me if this has already been discussed)

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Re: Prevent iPad sleep

Post by Phil Smith » Fri Aug 30, 2019 11:48 pm

mactod wrote:
Fri Aug 30, 2019 2:14 pm
Wishing the iPad’s sleep mode could be prevented while using the iGigBook app-troublesome to have to go to the device’s settings to change to prevent the iPad from unwanted sleep.
(Forgive me if this has already been discussed)
iGigBook already disables sleep mode when you are viewing a PDF page.
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Re: Prevent iPad sleep

Post by spinality » Thu Sep 05, 2019 3:27 pm

Phil Smith wrote:
Fri Aug 30, 2019 11:48 pm
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iGigBook already disables sleep mode when you are viewing a PDF page.
We've discussed this before, but since the topic has come up again, I'll mention that I spend most of my iGigBook time on stage displaying a set list rather than a PDF page. I don't usually go to the PDF page if I know the tune well. But I do like having the set list always visible and instantly accessible. For that reason, if it were easy to do, I'd love for sleep mode also to be disabled in set list view, not just in PDF display.

This situation is easier with the new iOS Face ID interface, which can prevent the iPad from going to sleep as long as you look at the screen regularly. However when performing, we often look away from the screen long enough for it to decide to sleep. (BTW I think the new Face ID interface may sometimes suppress the sleep mode settings. I'm pretty sure I've recently had iGigBook go to sleep with a PDF page displayed. I haven't been able to verify this, but if I do I'll follow up.)

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Re: Prevent iPad sleep

Post by mactod » Thu Sep 05, 2019 4:22 pm

Same issues with my usage.
Hoping for a solution.

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Re: Prevent iPad sleep

Post by spinality » Mon Sep 09, 2019 7:36 pm

I have confirmed that the new FaceID interface ignores the iGigBook attempt to prevent sleep when a PDF is displayed. The device goes to sleep regardless of what is displayed.

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Re: Prevent iPad sleep

Post by Phil Smith » Tue Sep 10, 2019 12:41 pm

In the interim you can always opt not to use Face ID. We will look into it but it's a very low priority item.
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Re: Prevent iPad sleep

Post by spinality » Tue Sep 10, 2019 1:02 pm

Phil Smith wrote:
Tue Sep 10, 2019 12:41 pm
In the interim you can always opt not to use Face ID. We will look into it but it's a very low priority item.
Thanks. My first priority was to let you know about it. As the proportion of users with 2018+ iPads increases this will presumably become more of an issue. Turning off FaceID Iis not a very attractive option for my use: it would mean entering a passcode much more often. Also, as mentioned above, FaceID helps keep the device from going to sleep when viewing a set list etc.

A more practical workaround for me will simply be to turn off the sleep function, or increase the timeout. On my earlier iPads I generally disabled the sleep function — because the only app I use on any of these iPads is iGigBook.

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Re: Prevent iPad sleep

Post by mactod » Tue Sep 10, 2019 1:48 pm

Going to settings and turning off sleep is the least desirable option. I always forgot to turn it back on!(it is generally a useful feature)
Having an option to control from the app might be the most desirable, or automatic switching off would be ok?-but then there’s probably always going to be someone auto switching doesn’t work for-so I suggest switchable from the app.

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Re: Prevent iPad sleep

Post by Phil Smith » Tue Sep 10, 2019 3:48 pm

What would be different from switchable in the app versus switchable via settings? Seems to me the issue of forgetting would still exist. What am I missing?
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Re: Prevent iPad sleep

Post by spinality » Tue Sep 10, 2019 5:51 pm

Phil Smith wrote:
Tue Sep 10, 2019 3:48 pm
What would be different from switchable in the app versus switchable via settings? Seems to me the issue of forgetting would still exist. What am I missing?
Just to jump in here, if it were app-specific then this would presumably only apply when running iGigBook, but would hopefully leave sleep operating normally per global settings when iGigBook is inactive.

I've turned off the enhanced awareness check and increased my timeout to 15 minutes. I'm guessing this will probably make things workable. The FaceID wakeup is so much easier and faster than using the earlier generation's fingerprint recognition that I am reluctant to disable it. As an illustration of this, I hadn't really noticed that sleep had stopped working when PDFs were displayed because the new system is aware of when you're looking at the page. The only time I've been going dark is when playing longer tunes that I know well and don't glance at the page. Upping the timeout to 15 minutes should address that. The new battery lasts so much longer that the need for rapidly going sleep is less of a concern.

I'd say the key thing is to be sure that users understand how things work on the various iPad models (i.e. via info here in the forum), so that at least new users know the options and what to expect.

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