Questions about PDF integerity check in iGigBook version 10.9.2

[Jim see]

Very interesting update! Thanks. I've just updated the app to the latest version and having recently noticed a missing chart from one of my books would like to ask if this feature is possibly not working as intended.

The book in question is "The New Real Book Vol 1" (nrealbk1) and the chart is "All Of Me". That chart simply doesn't appear anywhere in the PDF that I have. The book's table of contents (aka "Alphabetical Index") indicates that All of Me is on page 3. The numbered pages 3 and 4 are missing from the PDF. "Airegin" is on page 2, and on the next page is "Always There"--which shows a marking of page 5.

In case it matters, I have the offset for this book set at 15.

When I select "All of Me" or any other chart from the Book List view of "The New Real Book Vol 1", no message is displayed.

So, the question in short is whether "All Of Me" is missing from this title for all of you, or is it just me?

Thanks for your help with this!

Best regards,
Jim

[Phil Smith]

The book in question is "The New Real Book Vol 1" (nrealbk1) and the chart is "All Of Me". That chart simply doesn't appear anywhere in the PDF that I have. The book's table of contents (aka "Alphabetical Index") indicates that All of Me is on page 3. The numbered pages 3 and 4 are missing from the PDF. "Airegin" is on page 2, and on the next page is "Always There"--which shows a marking of page 5.

The bolded part in your description indicates there are pages missing. The new feature alerts you that pages are missing. This is a PDF that you downloaded from the internet or that someone gave to you and it has pages missing. If you never play "All Of Me" (page 3) or "All The Things You Are" (page 4) you would never be aware that these two pages are missing from the PDF. If you have this PDF linked to the index, it gives the impression that something is wrong with the index but the problem is that the PDF is missing pages. This feature is an attempt to raise awareness so that musicians do not automatically assume that PDF files they have received by downloading or from a fellow musician have all of the pages present and in the correct order.

The moral of the story is this:

If you have not scanned and assembled a PDF yourself at the very least you would need to review the PDF from the first song to the last song to make sure all of the pages are present and are in the correct order. The initial post has a video where we go through the entire Classic Real Book 5th Edition from first page to last to verify that all of the pages are present.

[Jim see]

Thanks for the reply. Please note that no error message is displayed when opening any of the titles from the Book List view. As I said previously:

When I select "All of Me" or any other chart from the Book List view of "The New Real Book Vol 1", no message is displayed.

[Phil Smith]

Thanks for the reply. Please note that no error message is displayed when opening any of the titles from the Book List view. As I said previously:

When I select "All of Me" or any other chart from the Book List view of "The New Real Book Vol 1", no message is displayed.

That is the intended behavior. The app doesn't know which pages are missing it just knows that pages are missing and informs you of that before you select any song. in this particular book the last song is "Stormy Weather" and if you select it you will get another message that pages are missing because you're trying to access a page that's beyond the number of pages present in the PDF. "The New Real Book Vol I" has 453 pages which includes the cover page, yours is missing 2 pages at the minimum which means it has 451 pages or less.

In your case, your PDF has two additional pages added to the beginning of the PDF to compensate for missing pages 3 and 4. That's why no message is displayed

[Jim see]

OK, sorry for misunderstanding. But, I do want to point out that I've not gotten any message at all that pages are missing. If I select the title in question from the Book List view it opens to the complete table of contents. No message displays. If I understand correctly, there should something telling me that pages are missing from this book. But, there just isn't. If I select "Stormy Weather" from the table of contents, it opens. It shows p. 437 printed on the page at top left. And, it shows "p.452 - The New Real Book Vol 1" in the center of the title bar area. Still no message appears.

This is with version 10.9.2 on an iPad Pro (12.9-inch, 5th generation), running iPadOS Version 18.5. I've rebooted the iPad and resynchronized the Book List view with no change. I'm not trying to be argumentative, just reporting what seems to be an issue with this new feature not working for me.

I do appreciate your help and would be glad to continue to troubleshoot this with you if it might help. If not, I'll let it drop.

Thanks again,
Jim

[Phil Smith]

The book in question is "The New Real Book Vol 1" (nrealbk1) and the chart is "All Of Me". That chart simply doesn't appear anywhere in the PDF that I have. The book's table of contents (aka "Alphabetical Index") indicates that All of Me is on page 3. The numbered pages 3 and 4 are missing from the PDF. "Airegin" is on page 2, and on the next page is "Always There"--which shows a marking of page 5.

When you select "Airegin" and display the song, what song appears when you tap the bottom of the screen to go to the next page and the page after that?

Here's what an intact PDF looks like for those pages:

[Jim see]

From the Book List, if I select The NRB Vol 1, it takes me to the TOC with no error message.

From the TOC, if I select "Airegin", it takes me to the "Chord Symbols" page (p. vi). From there, when I tap the bottom of the screen, it takes me to Affirmation (p. 1). The next tap takes me to Airegin (p. 2). And the next takes me to Always There (p. 5) and then the second page of Always there (p. 6).

So, it's clear that I have a PDF with pages missing. What I'm trying to understand is why the new "integrity check" isn't alerting me to that fact.

As per your description:

Added a PDF integrity check - Selecting an item from the Book List view, checks to see if the page number of the last song in the PDF exceeds the number of pages in the PDF and displays a message if true. When true this means the PDF that you have linked to the index has pages missing.

That message is not displaying for me.

[Phil Smith]

From the TOC, if I select "Airegin", it takes me to the "Chord Symbols" page (p. vi). From there, when I tap the bottom of the screen, it takes me to Affirmation (p. 1). The next tap takes me to Airegin (p. 2). And the next takes me to Always There (p. 5) and then the second page of Always there (p. 6)

Your offset is incorrect. You indicated earlier that your offset is 15 but when you select "Airegin" you get the "Chord Symbols" page (p. vi). This indicates that the offset is incorrect and you must address this first.

"Affirmation" has page number 1 notated on it, when you tap with 4 fingers while viewing that page, the dialog displayed should have a 1 in the input box.

"Airegin" has page number 2 notated on it, when you tap with 4 fingers while viewing that page, the dialog displayed should have a 2 in the input box.

How To Adjust An Index To Fit Your PDF

If I had to guess, I would say that your PDF has two pages added to the beginning of the PDF, to compensate for the 2 pages missing, so that an offset of 15 would work for most of the PDF when linked to the index and explains why "Stormy Weather" displays when you select it from the list and also why you do not get a message that pages are missing.

[Jim see]

Just circling back to say yes, your guess seems to explain what I'm seeing. Thanks very much for the help.