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Re: Bulk download

Posted: Sun Feb 05, 2012 7:00 pm
by Phil Smith
Unfortunately we will not be providing a bulk download feature for indexes that we have created.

When you add indexes using bulk upload, you are supposed to fine tune using i.e. fix any errors using the content manager which is more efficient than wiping out an entire index and then adding it again.

As I indicated in another thread, we're going to be handling the issue of Bb, Eb, and Bass clef books differently. In situations where the index is the same, there will be only one index with the ability to transpose to the Bb, Eb, and Bass clef version if you have them loaded on your device. When this feature is ready, we'll do a post in the How To section on how it works.

"Anthologie des Grilles de Jazz" this is the PDF with chord charts in grid format.

Re: Bulk download

Posted: Sun Feb 24, 2013 11:30 am
by Kelly.fitz
When you add indexes using bulk upload, you are supposed to fine tune using i.e. fix any errors using the content manager which is more efficient than wiping out an entire index and then adding it again.
I like that answer, I'd love to fine tune the index to match my copy of the book. Obviously, entering 300 songs using that web interface (Content Manager) is completely impractical. But I can't do fine tuning, because I don't have access to the 5% mismatched index. What am I missing?
"Anthologie des Grilles de Jazz" this is the PDF with chord charts in grid format.
This response contains no information. It doesn't tell those of us with that pdf how or whether we can use it with iGigBook. What am I missing?

Re: Bulk download

Posted: Sun Feb 24, 2013 5:26 pm
by Phil Smith
Kelly.fitz wrote: I like that answer, I'd love to fine tune the index to match my copy of the book. Obviously, entering 300 songs using that web interface (Content Manager) is completely impractical. But I can't do fine tuning, because I don't have access to the 5% mismatched index. What am I missing?
You're missing the fact that you can't edit an iGigBook index because that index is used by thousands of users. If any user were able to alter iGigBook indexes that could in some cases be a disaster. If the index doesn't match your book and that difference is 5%, the odds are the problem is with the book itself not the index. If you download a book from the internet you at the very least need to verify that all the pages are present and in the write order.
This response contains no information. It doesn't tell those of us with that pdf how or whether we can use it with iGigBook. What am I missing?
The statement is pretty clear as to what PDF that index matches.

Re: Bulk download

Posted: Sun Feb 24, 2013 5:45 pm
by Kelly.fitz
Phil Smith wrote:
Kelly.fitz wrote: I like that answer, I'd love to fine tune the index to match my copy of the book. Obviously, entering 300 songs using that web interface (Content Manager) is completely impractical. But I can't do fine tuning, because I don't have access to the 5% mismatched index. What am I missing?
You're missing the fact that you can't edit an iGigBook index because that index is used by thousands of users. If any user were able to alter iGigBook indexes that could in some cases be a disaster. If the index doesn't match your book and that difference is 5%, the odds are the problem is with the book itself not the index. If you download a book from the internet you at the very least need to verify that all the pages are present and in the write order.
Granted, and of course the straightforward solution is to grant a _copy_ to someone who needs to edit such an index.

I'm happy to send Hal Leonard their money for the books that they distribute as PDFs (Real Books 1-3, I think, though I am not actually certain what you get with the CDRom version of those books), but before I do, I'd like some reassurance that I will be able to use them. The fact that I can neither inspect nor edit the indices makes me unsure whether I'll just be throwing good money after bad, or whether everything will just magically work fine with those pdfs.

And the Real Books appear to be a rare exception. I am not having a lot of luck figuring out where I would purchase a legit copy of most of those pdfs. Is everyone expected to scan their own books? Is there a legit source I am missing?
Phil Smith wrote:
Kelly.fitz wrote:This response contains no information. It doesn't tell those of us with that pdf how or whether we can use it with iGigBook. What am I missing?
The statement is pretty clear as to what PDF that index matches.
...but again, not how we can turn that widely-available pdf into something we can use.

For books that show up so commonly on the internet, it seems like someone must have generated indices. Is there no mechanism for distributing indices that users create? It seems like I have read several posts from people who say they have generated indices they are willing to share, but I cannot figure out what is the mechanism for distributing them. Does everyone have to invent their own wheel?

- Eager, but frustrated.

Re: Bulk download

Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2013 10:06 am
by Phil Smith
How To Share Your Custom Index With Other Users:

viewtopic.php?f=22&t=346

Re: Bulk download

Posted: Sun Dec 29, 2013 2:47 pm
by musicdood
Not here to ask questions or bug anybody who doesn't want to be bugged. After reading several posts which contain the same frustration that I am also experiencing (the indexes sometimes do not line up properly) I have gone the very tedious path of creating my own indexes and just calling it a day. Many of the book indexes work fine but many/some books are simply a mess and the indexes do not line up properly. Some books I have been able to fix by adding blank pages or moving pages that were not in the right page order. Other books were just impossible to fix because each chart uses the chart number rather than the page number and that offers no help whatsoever in determining the proper order of the book pages. Other books like the Anthologie des Grilles de Jazz don't have page numbers AT ALL in the TOC or the charts themselves. Some books everything appeared completely in order but one or two pages were off. And on and on.

It seems that if we could at least have the intended indexes for these books and edit, them on our own to fit our books in what ever state they are in, give our books our own code, and upload to our accounts our edited versions of the indexes, no harm will be done whatsoever to the shared indexes that others are using. I would ask why is this not possible but it seems others have asked for this to no avail. Not quite sure why. I really like the program and don't want to rock the boat but I just needed to post my 2¢. Ok... back to making indexes.....

Re: Bulk download

Posted: Sat Feb 21, 2015 6:18 am
by jaelliott
Yes, I agree. There seems to be no reason for the existing indeces to be shared so that users can edit them an bulk upload their version that matches their PDF. It would seem to be much easier to edit the index than the PDFs.

Users could turn off the standard indeces provided by iGigBook and upload their edited versions.

Perhaps it could be explained why that is not allowed?

If anyone has gone to the trouble of bulk uploading indeces for the common real books, please could you share them with me so that I can copy and edit them?

J

Re: Bulk download

Posted: Sat Feb 21, 2015 7:27 am
by Phil Smith
jaelliott wrote:Yes, I agree. There seems to be no reason for the existing indeces to be shared so that users can edit them an bulk upload their version that matches their PDF. It would seem to be much easier to edit the index than the PDFs.

Users could turn off the standard indeces provided by iGigBook and upload their edited versions.

Perhaps it could be explained why that is not allowed?

If anyone has gone to the trouble of bulk uploading indeces for the common real books, please could you share them with me so that I can copy and edit them?

J
Editing an index is not easier than editing a PDF. There are many free tools for adding, removing and re-arranging pages in a PDF file. If you had a 400 page PDF with a page missing in the middle, it's much easier to add the missing page than to adjust the page numbers of every entry that appears after that page. Things often seem easier when you haven't actually done them, we have and have shared the best method with the users.

Re: Bulk download

Posted: Sat Feb 21, 2015 8:40 pm
by jaelliott
Phil

You are right. I have been wrestling with indexes for a few hours. Editing PDFs is the way.

Thanks for the correction.

J

Re: Bulk download

Posted: Fri Feb 27, 2015 7:08 am
by jaelliott
Ok. I have happily exited my Standards Real Book to fit the index. I ordered the pages correctly and added blank pages for missing pages. All works fine.

Then I exited my New Real Book 1 PDF to match the correct pages in the book. But all is not fine. boogie down is 6 pages long, but the index seems to think it is 4 pages long and all subsequent songs are 2 pages displaced in the index.

Could it be the NRB1 index is wrong?

J